 08/24/2009 01:17 PM
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leftsfoil Executive Member

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The following are excerpts from a previous post named, "The true purpose of marriage". Because it has become evident to me that nearly every post in this forum gets high-jacked and derailed by the pro-Gay crowd, I've decided to re-post my knowledge of homosexuality itself, and how it relates (or doesn't relate) to the proper raising of healthy human children, in a separate thread. This way all the Gays and their sympathizers can perhaps learn a little something about themselves and at the same time, have an opportunity to spew their venom in the appropriate thread for a change.
Part #1. Homosexuality explained.
Homosexual behavior in the human genome survives because it's generally not lethal. It is however, an addictive and from the standpoint of benefiting the species, a non-productive behavior. The most common form of addiction in humans is sexual addiction. Who can deny this? We all got it to one degree or another. It is a brain chemical reward system that we all share that is not only the primary motivator for procreation and thus species survival, but it is also the gray matter hard wiring system that makes us susceptible to drug addiction. Drugs that closely mimic the effects of orgasmic chemical release are hard to resist.
Personally I would prefer I was not privy to the sexual habits of anyone gay or straight. I believe sex should be a private matter. This is why I denounce porn and why I'd be happy if you the gay community kept their activities on the DL.
Part#2. The following is what a perfect world would look like from the standpoint of a child's well being.
A. The child would be of legitimate birth to a loving Mother and Father who ran a household based upon mutual respect. The Mother's primary responsibilities would be to love, nurture, to discipline and provide an example of a healthy female adult. The Father's primary responsibilities would be to love, provide resources, to discipline and provide an example of a healthy male adult.
B. The child would be raised in the Christian faith in order to educate him/her in the ways and value of civil behavior and honesty.
C. The child would be socialized early and know the joy of family and the sense of belonging and security that it brings.
Practicing homosexual behavior has absolutely nothing to do with the well being of a child.
Homosexuality is about adults having sex with whomever they want to have sex with. Clearly, this is a topic and practice that children have no use for.
I, having been a child, personally know that parents are embarrassing enough without your friends knowing/thinking that they are Gay, or as my teen-aged son once called them.. M&Ms = Mutual Masturbaters.
So O.K. M&Ms, it's time for you to let your nonlinear and self serving, venomous and vile thoughts and feelings soil and defile the haloed pages of this blessed ProLife forum. Please don't hold back. We need to hear all you have to say. We need to know the enemy. C'mon.. give it to us. Let it all out.
May you bask in the warmth of God's love forever and ever.
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 08/24/2009 02:10 PM
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BossMomma Executive VP

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Lovely, another bigot with their head up their ass.
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 08/24/2009 02:52 PM
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leftsfoil Executive Member

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Originally posted by: BossMomma
Lovely, another bigot with their head up their ass.
You go girl! That's what I'm looking for. Insults.. not a reasoned argument refuting my position.. no rational dissertation of the facts proving me wrong.. just insults. I suspect that you are still holding back a little. Are you sure you don't have something else you want to tell me?
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 08/24/2009 02:56 PM
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sk1bianca Executive Member

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well... we have to admit that kids grow up learning from adults, imitating people around them.
personally, i would be pretty disturbed if my kid came home from school and said he saw two guys kissing in the street, or some parade with men wearing women underwear.
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 08/24/2009 03:42 PM
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Augustine VP

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I once saw a local gay couple in public and a conversation was taking place. The couple is two women who are "raising" a teenage daughter from one of the women's previous marriage to her husband. Without the details of the conversation I will tell you that the conversation ended with the daughter telling her non-mom "I'll let you call me honey when you let me call you Butch". Yeah, you feel the love in the air.
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People that support abortion are narrow minded, morally frail, passively cruel, constitutionally weak, emotionally impaired and are in every way, humanly disadvantaged.I AM A PRO-LIFE PERSON!
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 08/24/2009 03:45 PM
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No Spinwiddy, perhaps raised by Christians like Scott Hahn, or Kirk Cameron or the Rose family (you know, that Lila Rose person and her many brothers and sisters).
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People that support abortion are narrow minded, morally frail, passively cruel, constitutionally weak, emotionally impaired and are in every way, humanly disadvantaged.I AM A PRO-LIFE PERSON!
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 08/24/2009 03:46 PM
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Faramir VP

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I, having been a child, personally know that parents are embarrassing enough without your friends knowing/thinking that they are Gay, or as my teen-aged son once called them.. M&Ms = Mutual Masturbaters.
An argument could be made that heterosexual couples who use contraception could also be called M&Ms.
Agreed?
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 08/24/2009 03:46 PM
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faithman CEO

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Originally posted by: leftsfoil
Originally posted by: BossMomma
Lovely, another bigot with their head up their ass.
You go girl! That's what I'm looking for. Insults.. not a reasoned argument refuting my position.. no rational dissertation of the facts proving me wrong.. just insults. I suspect that you are still holding back a little. Are you sure you don't have something else you want to tell me?
snicker....
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 08/24/2009 03:48 PM
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Faramir VP

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Originally posted by: leftsfoil
Originally posted by: BossMomma
Lovely, another bigot with their head up their ass.
You go girl! That's what I'm looking for. Insults.. not a reasoned argument refuting my position.. no rational dissertation of the facts proving me wrong.. just insults. I suspect that you are still holding back a little. Are you sure you don't have something else you want to tell me?
Well, when you bait someone with a comment like yours below, what do you expect?
So O.K. M&Ms, it's time for you to let your nonlinear and self serving, venomous and vile thoughts and feelings soil and defile the haloed pages of this blessed ProLife forum. Please don't hold back. We need to hear all you have to say. We need to know the enemy. C'mon.. give it to us. Let it all out.
You've already accused them of "vile and venomous thoughts and feelings" before they had an opportunity to respond.
Why not try again, but without a chip on your shoulder and see if there is a different response?
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I maintain friendships with abortion advocates and practicing abortionists. The clarity of our own convictions never means we despise, demonize, or shut out other people.Fr. Frank Pavone, Priests for Life
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 08/24/2009 03:50 PM
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Augustine VP

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Faramir, Catholics are already opposed to contraception as are many Christians.
The rejection of contraception is something which is coming of age among Christians of all denominations. I have seen a serious shift especially among protestant non-Catholics on the issue of contraception. I would even say that I think that non-Catholics are taking a cue from Catholics on contraception largely because they have been so out in front on the issue of abortion.
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People that support abortion are narrow minded, morally frail, passively cruel, constitutionally weak, emotionally impaired and are in every way, humanly disadvantaged.I AM A PRO-LIFE PERSON!
Edited: 08/24/2009 at 03:50 PM by Augustine
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 08/24/2009 03:53 PM
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Faramir VP

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Originally posted by: Augustine
Faramir, Catholics are already opposed to contraception as are many Christians.
The rejection of contraception is something which is coming of age among Christians of all denominations. I have seen a serious shift especially among protestant non-Catholics on the issue of contraception. I would even say that I think that non-Catholics are taking a cue from Catholics on contraception largely because they have been so out in front on the issue of abortion.
Is Leftsfoil a Catholic?
Do you know whether he or she opposes contraception?
I haven't seen that shift you speak of. Where have you seen evidence of it?
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I maintain friendships with abortion advocates and practicing abortionists. The clarity of our own convictions never means we despise, demonize, or shut out other people.Fr. Frank Pavone, Priests for Life
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 08/24/2009 04:00 PM
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Augustine VP

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Being a Catholic is how you live your life in conjunction with the teachings of Jesus Christ and the Holy Catholic Church. One is not a Catholic simply because they call themselves Catholic. Or they are in a state of grave sin or likely anathema. It is the responsibility of Catholics to know the teachings of the Catholic faith and I might add to teach other Catholics the teachings of the Catholic faith.
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People that support abortion are narrow minded, morally frail, passively cruel, constitutionally weak, emotionally impaired and are in every way, humanly disadvantaged.I AM A PRO-LIFE PERSON!
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 08/24/2009 04:02 PM
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Originally posted by: Augustine
Being a Catholic is how you live your life in conjunction with the teachings of Jesus Christ and the Holy Catholic Church. One is not a Catholic simply because they call themselves Catholic. Or they are in a state of grave sin or likely anathema. It is the responsibility of Catholics to know the teachings of the Catholic faith and I might add to teach other Catholics the teachings of the Catholic faith.
Are you talking pre- V2, or this gobbledy goop that is passed off in this post modernist age?
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 08/24/2009 04:12 PM
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Augustine VP

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Many Catholic, including priests and bishops took Vatican II to be something that it wasn't. The 20th century was a horrible century for the Catholic Church. Changes in the Liturgy led people to believe that the Church had changed and many lived as though the Catholic faith and Jesus Christ himself had changed. Catholic education was deplorable. I quit my own Catholic education when I was in gradeschool. My own Catholic education came by reading some newer more orthodox Catholic writers and older Catholic writings and I wasn't confirmed until the age of 33. Looking over the material that was being taught to Catholic confirmants even in 2006 I found it be be ambiguous at least and lacking in true Christian orthodoxy. I often find that many non-Catholics are more Catholic than they realize and I am always impressed by their biblical knowledge.
One area that Catholic education is lacking in; the defense of Christian marriage as being between one man and one women and the education of children in the teachings of Jesus Christ. I haven't heard the word abortion mentioned in my own church in 12 years or more.
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People that support abortion are narrow minded, morally frail, passively cruel, constitutionally weak, emotionally impaired and are in every way, humanly disadvantaged.I AM A PRO-LIFE PERSON!
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 08/24/2009 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by: Augustine
Many Catholic, including priests and bishops took Vatican II to be something that it wasn't. The 20th century was a horrible century for the Catholic Church. Changes in the Liturgy led people to believe that the Church had changed and many lived as though the Catholic faith and Jesus Christ himself had changed. Catholic education was deplorable. I quit my own Catholic education when I was in gradeschool. My own Catholic education came by reading some newer more orthodox Catholic writers and older Catholic writings and I wasn't confirmed until the age of 33. Looking over the material that was being taught to Catholic confirmants even in 2006 I found it be be ambiguous at least and lacking in true Christian orthodoxy. I often find that many non-Catholics are more Catholic than they realize and I am always impressed by their biblical knowledge.
One area that Catholic education is lacking in; the defense of Christian marriage as being between one man and one women and the education of children in the teachings of Jesus Christ. I haven't heard the word abortion mentioned in my own church in 12 years or more.
Don't feel put upon. I pick on protestants just as hard. despite the pagan trappings, there are many sincere catholics around that have a deep love and reverence for the Lord Jesus Christ.
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 08/24/2009 04:22 PM
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Faramir VP

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I have heard prolife messages from our pulpit many times--several times a year and at least once or twice a year involving a special prolife speaker.
I have heard abortion mentioned in many Catholic churches throughout the country.
If you have not heard anything about prolife or abortion in 12 years, maybe it's time to find a new parish or dicese. I
Regardless, the Church is the same Church pre and post Vatican I and Vatican II.
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I maintain friendships with abortion advocates and practicing abortionists. The clarity of our own convictions never means we despise, demonize, or shut out other people.
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 08/24/2009 04:40 PM
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leftsfoil Executive Member

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Ah.. Faramir The shiniest penny to the left.
Originally posted by: Faramir
An argument could be made that heterosexual couples who use contraception could also be called M&Ms.
Agreed?
Agreed. But not exclusively without exception. Agreed?
Originally posted by: Faramir
Well, when you bait someone with a comment like yours below, what do you expect?
So O.K. M&Ms, it's time for you to let your nonlinear and self serving, venomous and vile thoughts and feelings soil and defile the haloed pages of this blessed ProLife forum. Please don't hold back. We need to hear all you have to say. We need to know the enemy. C'mon.. give it to us. Let it all out.
You've already accused them of "vile and venomous thoughts and feelings" before they had an opportunity to respond.
Why not try again, but without a chip on your shoulder and see if there is a different response?
So.. you perceive the trap. Only the dumb ones take the bait so willingly. Long experience has shown me that leftist need no urging to nastiness.
Originally posted by: Faramir
Is Leftsfoil a Catholic?
Do you know whether he or she opposes contraception?
I profess belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ. I was baptized in the Baptist church, married in the Lutheran church, attend midnight mass in the Catholic church every Christmas eve and am a member of The Coral Ridge Ministries Presbyterian Church in Orlando, Florida. As I said, I profess belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ. I love Jesus and by the way, thank you for asking.
May you bask in the warmth of God's love forever and ever.
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 08/24/2009 05:02 PM
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Faramir VP

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Ah.. Faramir The shiniest penny to the left.
Huh?
Not sure what that means, but thank you for your responses.
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I maintain friendships with abortion advocates and practicing abortionists. The clarity of our own convictions never means we despise, demonize, or shut out other people.Fr. Frank Pavone, Priests for Life
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 08/24/2009 05:25 PM
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Faramir VP

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I profess belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ. I was baptized in the Baptist church, married in the Lutheran church, attend midnight mass in the Catholic church every Christmas eve
I see you attend a Catholic Church once a year, so you attend Mass as frequently as half the Catholics do.
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I maintain friendships with abortion advocates and practicing abortionists. The clarity of our own convictions never means we despise, demonize, or shut out other people.Fr. Frank Pavone, Priests for Life
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 08/24/2009 05:47 PM
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Augustine VP

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TOOFY?
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People that support abortion are narrow minded, morally frail, passively cruel, constitutionally weak, emotionally impaired and are in every way, humanly disadvantaged.I AM A PRO-LIFE PERSON!
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