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and guess what--they are now ages 5yrs, 3yrs, 1yr, and 3months. how did these pregnancies come about? all--the same way--i CHOSE to spread my legs--repeat--I--CHOSE----the babies are INNOCENT. I knew i had the option of paying someone to kill them for me--legally--that way i could be free to spread my legs again and again with no consequences nor responsibilities. instead, i CHOSE to accept the consequences/responsibilities that DO and SHOULD come with CHOOSING to spread my legs! i'm really getting fed up with people punishing the child for their own selfish choices/"mistakes."

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Originally posted by: sweet

and guess what--they are now ages 5yrs, 3yrs, 1yr, and 3months. how did these pregnancies come about? all--the same way--i CHOSE to spread my legs--repeat--I--CHOSE----the babies are INNOCENT. I knew i had the option of paying someone to kill them for me--legally--that way i could be free to spread my legs again and again with no consequences nor responsibilities. instead, i CHOSE to accept the consequences/responsibilities that DO and SHOULD come with CHOOSING to spread my legs! i'm really getting fed up with people punishing the child for their own selfish choices/"mistakes."


Thank God there are multiple millions who are "fed up" too, Sweet.

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 11/07/2009 12:21 PM
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Originally posted by: sweet

and guess what--they are now ages 5yrs, 3yrs, 1yr, and 3months. how did these pregnancies come about? all--the same way--i CHOSE to spread my legs--repeat--I--CHOSE----the babies are INNOCENT. I knew i had the option of paying someone to kill them for me--legally--that way i could be free to spread my legs again and again with no consequences nor responsibilities. instead, i CHOSE to accept the consequences/responsibilities that DO and SHOULD come with CHOOSING to spread my legs! i'm really getting fed up with people punishing the child for their own selfish choices/"mistakes."


Not everyone sees abortion like that, which is why they make different choices, and lots of us come to regret those decisions,....sometime they feel trapped or unable to handle the pregnancy.....that is were compassionate, kind people can help by reaching out, like the Pregnancy Help Centers. And prolifers at the clinic offering help and really following through...

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 11/07/2009 01:43 PM
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Originally posted by: sweet

and guess what--they are now ages 5yrs, 3yrs, 1yr, and 3months. how did these pregnancies come about? all--the same way--i CHOSE to spread my legs--repeat--I--CHOSE----the babies are INNOCENT. I knew i had the option of paying someone to kill them for me--legally--that way i could be free to spread my legs again and again with no consequences nor responsibilities. instead, i CHOSE to accept the consequences/responsibilities that DO and SHOULD come with CHOOSING to spread my legs! i'm really getting fed up with people punishing the child for their own selfish choices/"mistakes."

You keep using the word chose, which is quite apropos since you were able to choose what was best for you and your situation. Aren't you glad you had that choice each and every time and that no one forced you to do anything you didn't choose to do?

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Originally posted by: QueenJ

Originally posted by: sweet



and guess what--they are now ages 5yrs, 3yrs, 1yr, and 3months. how did these pregnancies come about? all--the same way--i CHOSE to spread my legs--repeat--I--CHOSE----the babies are INNOCENT. I knew i had the option of paying someone to kill them for me--legally--that way i could be free to spread my legs again and again with no consequences nor responsibilities. instead, i CHOSE to accept the consequences/responsibilities that DO and SHOULD come with CHOOSING to spread my legs! i'm really getting fed up with people punishing the child for their own selfish choices/"mistakes."


You keep using the word chose, which is quite apropos since you were able to choose what was best for you and your situation. Aren't you glad you had that choice each and every time and that no one forced you to do anything you didn't choose to do?


Dimwit.

Don't you wish you had the "right to choose" to kill whomever you darn well "choose" to murder. Instead of being FORCED to live with TOTALLY ANNOYING PEOPLE!

She knows, stupid, that she could have "chosen" to kill her kids if she wanted to. That doesn't mean, stupid, that she thinks anyone NEEDS to be given ANY CHOICE when it comes to killing innocent human beings.

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Originally posted by: nancyu
Dimwit.

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Originally posted by: nancyu
Don't you wish you had the "right to choose" to kill whomever you darn well "choose" to murder. Instead of being FORCED to live with TOTALLY ANNOYING PEOPLE!

It's funny because the last time I checked no one has attached themselves to my body and depended on my body and my body alone for their survival.
Also, I don't know about you, but the first thought that comes to my mind when I encounter an annoying person is not to kill them. Rather, I remove myself from the situation and put as much distance and physical barriers as I can between myself and said annoying person.
Pregnant women don't have this luxury and a fetus poses much more risk to a woman's life and health than any annoying person you might meet.

Originally posted by: nancyu
She knows, stupid, that she could have "chosen" to kill her kids if she wanted to. That doesn't mean, stupid, that she thinks anyone NEEDS to be given ANY CHOICE when it comes to killing innocent human beings.

I never said she had to believe in abortion. She doesn't. She can go around and NOT have abortions all she wants. She has the right to decide what is right for her and her situation. She, however, doesn't have the right to decide that for any other woman.

Originally posted by: nancyu
Dummy.

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Originally posted by: QueenJ

Originally posted by: nancyu

She knows, stupid, that she could have "chosen" to kill her kids if she wanted to. That doesn't mean, stupid, that she thinks anyone NEEDS to be given ANY CHOICE when it comes to killing innocent human beings.


She has the right to decide what is right for her and her situation. She, however, doesn't have the right to decide that for any other woman.


I disagree, she most certainly does have the right to decide that for other women.

We are our brothers', (sisters') keepers.

If I were to witness you on the verge of doing something that would most certainly bring harm to another person, it would be my moral obligation to humanity to stop you. Your wanton acts could force me to harm or, perhaps even, kill you if it were to become necessary. I would risk and have risked personal harm and threat of death to defend the innocent. Whether your victims were geriatric or gestating, I would be compelled to take decisive action against you.

It is you that has no moral right to decide what a rescuer might choose to do.

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Originally posted by: leftsnemesis
I disagree, she most certainly does have the right to decide that for other women.

We are our brothers', (sisters') keepers.

If I were to witness you on the verge of doing something that would most certainly bring harm to another person, it would be my moral obligation to humanity to stop you. Your wanton acts could force me to harm or, perhaps even, kill you if it were to become necessary. I would risk and have risked personal harm and threat of death to defend the innocent. Whether your victims were geriatric or gestating, I would be compelled to take decisive action against you.

It is you that has no moral right to decide what a rescuer might choose to do.

So, you stand outside clinics that provide abortions? Use your finely honed ESP skills to differentiate between women going in for their pap smears and women going in for their abortions? Then physically restrain these women from stepping inside the clinic? And then if the woman puts up a fight and breaks free from your grasp and once again attempts to enter the clinic, you break out your gun from your holster and shoot her?

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Originally posted by: Vexer

Originally posted by: joueravecfou



Good thing then that yoda won't be taking any more pictures.




Definitely!


He wasn't the only chap to be doing that, you know?

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Originally posted by: leftsnemesis

I disagree, she most certainly does have the right to decide that for other women.

We are our brothers', (sisters') keepers.

If I were to witness you on the verge of doing something that would most certainly bring harm to another person, it would be my moral obligation to humanity to stop you. Your wanton acts could force me to harm or, perhaps even, kill you if it were to become necessary. I would risk and have risked personal harm and threat of death to defend the innocent. Whether your victims were geriatric or gestating, I would be compelled to take decisive action against you.

It is you that has no moral right to decide what a rescuer might choose to do.


So, you stand outside clinics that provide abortions? Use your finely honed ESP skills to differentiate between women going in for their pap smears and women going in for their abortions? Then physically restrain these women from stepping inside the clinic? And then if the woman puts up a fight and breaks free from your grasp and once again attempts to enter the clinic, you break out your gun from your holster and shoot her?

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Originally posted by: sweet

and guess what--they are now ages 5yrs, 3yrs, 1yr, and 3months. how did these pregnancies come about? all--the same way--i CHOSE to spread my legs--repeat--I--CHOSE----the babies are INNOCENT. I knew i had the option of paying someone to kill them for me--legally--that way i could be free to spread my legs again and again with no consequences nor responsibilities. instead, i CHOSE to accept the consequences/responsibilities that DO and SHOULD come with CHOOSING to spread my legs! i'm really getting fed up with people punishing the child for their own selfish choices/"mistakes."


You sound like a wonderful human being and mother who was blessed with faith and acceptance and are now reaping the joy in your little ones. Blessed are you!

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Originally posted by: leftsnemesis

I disagree, she most certainly does have the right to decide that for other women.

We are our brothers', (sisters') keepers.

If I were to witness you on the verge of doing something that would most certainly bring harm to another person, it would be my moral obligation to humanity to stop you. Your wanton acts could force me to harm or, perhaps even, kill you if it were to become necessary. I would risk and have risked personal harm and threat of death to defend the innocent. Whether your victims were geriatric or gestating, I would be compelled to take decisive action against you.

It is you that has no moral right to decide what a rescuer might choose to do.

So, you stand outside clinics that provide abortions? Use your finely honed ESP skills to differentiate between women going in for their pap smears and women going in for their abortions? Then physically restrain these women from stepping inside the clinic? And then if the woman puts up a fight and breaks free from your grasp and once again attempts to enter the clinic, you break out your gun from your holster and shoot her?

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Originally posted by: QueenJ

Originally posted by: leftsnemesis



I disagree, she most certainly does have the right to decide that for other women.



We are our brothers', (sisters') keepers.



If I were to witness you on the verge of doing something that would most certainly bring harm to another person, it would be my moral obligation to humanity to stop you. Your wanton acts could force me to harm or, perhaps even, kill you if it were to become necessary. I would risk and have risked personal harm and threat of death to defend the innocent. Whether your victims were geriatric or gestating, I would be compelled to take decisive action against you.



It is you that has no moral right to decide what a rescuer might choose to do.


So, you stand outside clinics that provide abortions? Use your finely honed ESP skills to differentiate between women going in for their pap smears and women going in for their abortions? Then physically restrain these women from stepping inside the clinic? And then if the woman puts up a fight and breaks free from your grasp and once again attempts to enter the clinic, you break out your gun from your holster and shoot her?


ummm, you've never heard of peaceful protest? I have never read of any of that stuff happening and believe me, the press prints every little thing they can negative about prolifers.

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Originally posted by: Vexer

Originally posted by: lukesmom

ummm, you've never heard of peaceful protest? I have never read of any of that stuff happening and believe me, the press prints every little thing they can negative about prolifers.






That's odd, because there was this incident all over the news recently where some dude got shot in the face while he was at church for being involved in abortion.


oh, he was a women going into an abortion clinic to get a pap smear? LOL, please read the post I was responding to. I even quoted it in my post.
Notice I didn't call you loser or retard?

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Originally posted by: joueravecfou

Good thing then that yoda won't be taking any more pictures.


Jackass, you think he was the only one doing that on those Saturdays?
Do you think no one picked up his righteous mantel???
Think again, you sorry pathetic excuse for a human being.

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Originally posted by: Vexer

Originally posted by: lukesmom



oh, he was a women going into an abortion clinic to get a pap smear? LOL, please read the post I was responding to. I even quoted it in my post.



Notice I didn't call you loser or retard?




No, it wasn't a woman going for a checkup, it was a guy praying in his church - which is WAY worse. He wasn't even outside a clinic when he got shot.

What's next? I get shot when I'm returning library books?

You just backed up my point: you don't even need to be near an abortion clinic to get killed by a nutcase fundy pro'lifer'.

Tard.


The one who got shot was the "NUTCASE", he murdered, in cold blood, halpless viable babies.
Though I do not advocate vengence, it's just a fact of life what goes around comes around, even you....a crazy man can't stop that from happening.

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Originally posted by: lukesmom

Originally posted by: QueenJ

Originally posted by: leftsnemesis

I disagree, she most certainly does have the right to decide that for other women.

We are our brothers', (sisters') keepers.

If I were to witness you on the verge of doing something that would most certainly bring harm to another person, it would be my moral obligation to humanity to stop you. Your wanton acts could force me to harm or, perhaps even, kill you if it were to become necessary. I would risk and have risked personal harm and threat of death to defend the innocent. Whether your victims were geriatric or gestating, I would be compelled to take decisive action against you.

It is you that has no moral right to decide what a rescuer might choose to do.


So, you stand outside clinics that provide abortions? Use your finely honed ESP skills to differentiate between women going in for their pap smears and women going in for their abortions? Then physically restrain these women from stepping inside the clinic? And then if the woman puts up a fight and breaks free from your grasp and once again attempts to enter the clinic, you break out your gun from your holster and shoot her?


ummm, you've never heard of peaceful protest? I have never read of any of that stuff happening and believe me, the press prints every little thing they can negative about prolifers.

That's not what leftsnemesis suggests:

Originally posted by: leftsnemesis

I disagree, she most certainly does have the right to decide that for other women.

We are our brothers', (sisters') keepers.

If I were to witness you on the verge of doing something that would most certainly bring harm to another person, it would be my moral obligation to humanity to stop you. Your wanton acts could force me to harm or, perhaps even, kill you if it were to become necessary. I would risk and have risked personal harm and threat of death to defend the innocent. Whether your victims were geriatric or gestating, I would be compelled to take decisive action against you.

It is you that has no moral right to decide what a rescuer might choose to do.


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Originally posted by: leftsnemesis

I disagree, she most certainly does have the right to decide that for other women.

We are our brothers', (sisters') keepers.

If I were to witness you on the verge of doing something that would most certainly bring harm to another person, it would be my moral obligation to humanity to stop you. Your wanton acts could force me to harm or, perhaps even, kill you if it were to become necessary. I would risk and have risked personal harm and threat of death to defend the innocent. Whether your victims were geriatric or gestating, I would be compelled to take decisive action against you.

It is you that has no moral right to decide what a rescuer might choose to do.


So, you stand outside clinics that provide abortions? Use your finely honed ESP skills to differentiate between women going in for their pap smears and women going in for their abortions? Then physically restrain these women from stepping inside the clinic? And then if the woman puts up a fight and breaks free from your grasp and once again attempts to enter the clinic, you break out your gun from your holster and shoot her?

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That a person chooses is not commendable simply because a choice is made. We applaud right choices, correct choices, good choices. That's the difference between moral relativism and moral certainty.

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Originally posted by: leftsnemesis

I disagree, she most certainly does have the right to decide that for other women.

We are our brothers', (sisters') keepers.

If I were to witness you on the verge of doing something that would most certainly bring harm to another person, it would be my moral obligation to humanity to stop you. Your wanton acts could force me to harm or, perhaps even, kill you if it were to become necessary. I would risk and have risked personal harm and threat of death to defend the innocent. Whether your victims were geriatric or gestating, I would be compelled to take decisive action against you.

It is you that has no moral right to decide what a rescuer might choose to do.


So, you stand outside clinics that provide abortions? Use your finely honed ESP skills to differentiate between women going in for their pap smears and women going in for their abortions? Then physically restrain these women from stepping inside the clinic? And then if the woman puts up a fight and breaks free from your grasp and once again attempts to enter the clinic, you break out your gun from your holster and shoot her?

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