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Created On: 11/18/2009 06:59 PM
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 11/18/2009 06:59 PM
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I have heard of many pro-abortion clinic workers who have left the dark side and become actively pro-life. I have never heard of a Pro-life pregnancy Center worker or volunteer change and become actively pro-choice. I believe this is because once a pro-choice person ( who has a heart) stops being defensive and examines the true facts they have no choice but to be pro-life is the best way to defending abd protect women and babies.

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 11/18/2009 07:33 PM
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Sure, abortion is never a choice anyone wants to make. Offering a win-win solution is better than simply offering death or being stuck raising a child when you are not ready....
if you care about women, the prolife position is more logical.

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 11/18/2009 09:28 PM
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and of course these proaborts often barely (or never) mentioning adoption.
 11/18/2009 09:33 PM
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the assumption is that if you come to an abortion facility you have already decided what you want to do. But lots of women report not being sure of what they were doing or wanting. Lots report being unaware of fetal development and feeling tricked after the abortion when they found out.

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 11/18/2009 10:11 PM
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Originally posted by: carolemarie

the assumption is that if you come to an abortion facility you have already decided what you want to do. But lots of women report not being sure of what they were doing or wanting. Lots report being unaware of fetal development and feeling tricked after the abortion when they found out.


don't let Spinny hear you. She has a bunch of states about the other services PP offer.

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 11/18/2009 10:26 PM
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Originally posted by: Shenanigans

don't let Spinny hear you. She has a bunch of states about the other services PP offer.

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Yes, I've become THAT predictable:

Affiliate Medical Services Summary

Contraception - 36 percent of services in 2007

Reversible Contraception Clients, Women** 2,360,796
Emergency Contraception Kits 1,423,365
Tubal Sterilization Clients 532
Reversible Contraception Clients, Men 102,405
Vasectomy Clients 2,882
3,889,980

STI/STD Testing and Treatment - 31 percent of services in 2007

STI Procedures, Women and Men 2,994,749
HIV Testing Procedures, Women 257,877
HIV Testing Procedures, Men 80,077
HIV Testing Procedures, Gender Not Reported 30,519
3,363,222

Cancer Screening and Prevention - 17 percent of services in 2007

Pap Tests 968,682
Breast Exams/ Breast Care 851,232
Colposcopy Procedures*** 46,522
LOOP/LEEP Procedures*** 2,652
Cryotherapy Procedures*** 2,411
1,871,499

Other Women's Health Services - 11 percent of services in 2007

Pregnancy Tests 1,183,325
Prenatal Clients 10,914
Midlife Clients 12,783
Infertility Clients 318
1,207,340

Abortion Services - 3 percent of services in 2007

Abortion Procedures 305,310


Other Services - 2 percent of services in 2007
Primary Care Clients, Women and Men 21,247
Adoption Referrals to Other Agencies 4,912
Other Services, Women and Men**** 228,964
255,123
 11/18/2009 10:41 PM
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Adoption Referrals to Other Agencies 4,912 Only because they coulsn't be talked into abortion. You don't here how they helped these women with maternity clothes like a CPC woud do. They don't help with that choice instead they refer to you another place.

Isn't this off the topic.

Originally posted by: Hosea

I have heard of many pro-abortion clinic workers who have left the dark side and become actively pro-life. I have never heard of a Pro-life pregnancy Center worker or volunteer change and become actively pro-choice. I believe this is because once a pro-choice person ( who has a heart) stops being defensive and examines the true facts they have no choice but to be pro-life is the best way to defending abd protect women and babies.


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 11/18/2009 10:51 PM
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I honestly think people who assist, doctors, nurses et cetera, with abortions have some kind of mental illness or diffiencey. If a nurse was working in a pro-life clinic or in a job where she doesn't do abortions but might have to deal with all sorts of things that apparently "justify an abortion" she may be more inclined to sympathise with a woman who aborts, but her pro-life leanings will probably not guide her to assist in an abortion.

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 11/19/2009 12:38 AM
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Originally posted by: Hosea
I have never heard of a Pro-life pregnancy Center worker or volunteer change and become actively pro-choice.

That would be me.

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 11/19/2009 01:34 AM
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Originally posted by: QueenJ

Originally posted by: Hosea

I have never heard of a Pro-life pregnancy Center worker or volunteer change and become actively pro-choice.


That would be me.


Do you actually assist in abortions?

Its one thing to go from being Pro-Life to being Pro-Choice, I've met my few, but I haven't met any Lifers who went to being active in abortion procedures.

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 11/19/2009 06:18 AM
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Originally posted by: Spinwubby



Abortion Procedures 305,310




... in 2007 alone. Planned Parenthood alone slaughtered 305,310 children. But hey, it's only 3% of their services. Focus on the GOOD things they do!

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Originally posted by: carolemarie

Sure, abortion is never a choice anyone wants to make. Offering a win-win solution is better than simply offering death or being stuck raising a child when you are not ready....

if you care about women, the prolife position is more logical.


Stuck?

Wow, you have some dim view of life. No wonder you're so confused and a proabort.

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 11/19/2009 09:43 AM
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Originally posted by: Shenanigans

Originally posted by: QueenJ



Originally posted by: Hosea



I have never heard of a Pro-life pregnancy Center worker or volunteer change and become actively pro-choice.




That would be me.




Do you actually assist in abortions?



Its one thing to go from being Pro-Life to being Pro-Choice, I've met my few, but I haven't met any Lifers who went to being active in abortion procedures.


No. Unfortunately, I'm one of those who doesn't fair well at the sight of blood.

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 11/19/2009 10:02 AM
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Originally posted by: QueenJ

Originally posted by: Shenanigans



Originally posted by: QueenJ







Originally posted by: Hosea







I have never heard of a Pro-life pregnancy Center worker or volunteer change and become actively pro-choice.








That would be me.








Do you actually assist in abortions?







Its one thing to go from being Pro-Life to being Pro-Choice, I've met my few, but I haven't met any Lifers who went to being active in abortion procedures.




No. Unfortunately, I'm one of those who doesn't fair well at the sight of blood.


Yeah, blood from dead babies can be a tough one.

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 11/19/2009 02:34 PM
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Originally posted by: Hosea

I have heard of many pro-abortion clinic workers who have left the dark side and become actively pro-life. I have never heard of a Pro-life pregnancy Center worker or volunteer change and become actively pro-choice. I believe this is because once a pro-choice person ( who has a heart) stops being defensive and examines the true facts they have no choice but to be pro-life is the best way to defending abd protect women and babies.


There is a website that gives numerous examples of former abortion industry employees who have become pro-life.

Often they realize (or acknowledge) that the abortion industry is not 'pro-woman' as it claims, that many, many women are injured and even killed by so-called 'safe' legal abortions.

Also, it's relatively easy for choice cultist (choicist) individuals to persist in believing the myths and lies spread by the abortion industry when they don't work in an abortuary, and therefore don't know what really goes on there.
But the abortion industry employees see the ugly truth.
 11/19/2009 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by: QueenJ

Originally posted by: Shenanigans

Originally posted by: QueenJ



Originally posted by: Hosea


I have never heard of a Pro-life pregnancy Center worker or volunteer change and become actively pro-choice.


That would be me.



Do you actually assist in abortions?


Its one thing to go from being Pro-Life to being Pro-Choice, I've met my few, but I haven't met any Lifers who went to being active in abortion procedures.


No. Unfortunately, I'm one of those who doesn't fair well at the sight of blood.
what about the blood of a fetus?

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 11/19/2009 04:11 PM
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Originally posted by: Shenanigans

Originally posted by: carolemarie



the assumption is that if you come to an abortion facility you have already decided what you want to do. But lots of women report not being sure of what they were doing or wanting. Lots report being unaware of fetal development and feeling tricked after the abortion when they found out.




don't let Spinny hear you. She has a bunch of states about the other services PP offer.


PPH is hardly the only abortion provider. There are lots of clinics that provide abortion services only.

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 11/19/2009 05:10 PM
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Originally posted by: QueenJ

Originally posted by: Hosea

I have never heard of a Pro-life pregnancy Center worker or volunteer change and become actively pro-choice.


That would be me.


So you have worked or volunteered at a pregnancy crisis center?

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 11/19/2009 05:19 PM
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I used to be pro-life, now I'm pro-choice because of reasons I have already mentioned. However, I haven't worked in an abortion clinic. Since I got 0 medical knowledge, I doubt I ever will.

It's possible to turn, to both ways, for everyone.

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 11/19/2009 05:20 PM
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Originally posted by: Augustine

stuck with child=punished with child


Exactly!
That's her dim view of children.
How sickening.

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