Well, I half don't know why I'm posting this seeing as some of our resident borties don't click links to pro-life websites, plus, there's lots and lots and lots of words here. They might get a headaches...

http://www.afterabortion.org/PAR/V8/n2/finland.html

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God is Love.

The question then becomes in all of life's circumstance, "what is the loving thing to do?"

Very interesting. I would like the proaborts to dispute these findings:

The South Glamorgan researchers concluded that their data did not support the view that suicide after an abortion was predicated on prior poor mental health, at least as measured by prior suicide attempts. Instead, "the increased risk of suicide after an induced abortion may therefore be a consequence of the procedure itself."(6)


and:

In a study of government-funded medical programs in Canada, researchers found that women who had undergone an abortion in the previous year were treated for mental disorders 41 percent more often than postpartum women, and 25 percent more often for injuries or conditions resulting from violence.(13

and

another study of 1,428 patients chosen at random from their office visits to 69 general practitioners found that pregnancy loss, especially abortion, was significantly associated with a lower assessment of general health.(20) The more pregnancy losses a woman had suffered, the more negative her general health score. In addition, loss of a woman's most recent pregnancy was more strongly associated with lower health than were losses followed by successful deliveries.


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Sue, Luke's mom
http://prenatalpartnersforlife...sAnencephaly_lucas.htm

I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't, and die to find out there is.

No matter how hard they try, no matter the word twisting the proaborts contrive, the facts will always show their lies.
It's just not natural for a woman to kill her own offspring. The body and mind were never designed for such traumas. Women will continue to pay the price, some happily (it's worth the price to them to kill) and some will be shocked to learn by their own hands they have brought about their own misery.

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A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves. - Edward R. Murrow

The first liberal was satan.

Uh, folks...

You may have it backwards.

Women who are chaotic (manic-depressive, schizophrenic, suicidal, substance abusive, live in abusive situations, etc...) are FAR more likely to engage in the high-risk behaviors that result in unwanted pregnancies. That behavior leads to abortions, rather than abortions leading to those behaviors and the deaths associated with those behaviors.

It's like saying that tattoos lead to alcohol and drug use, when it is VIRTUALLY ALWAYS the other way around.

David Reardon?

The guy who got his Ph.D in Bioethics from Pacific Western University - a diploma mill with no actual campus, faculty or curricula?

A few notes about "Dr." Dave:

"Why "Doctor" Reardon? Because, as renowned science writer Chris Mooney notes, Reardon's "Ph.D." comes from what appears to be a correspondence class diploma mill:­

Reardon founded his own quasi-academic think tank, the Elliot Institute
for Social Sciences Research. At the time, Reardon had a background in
electronic engineering; he's since acquired a Ph.D. in biomedical
ethics from Pacific Western University, an unaccredited correspondence
school offering no classroom instruction.


Not to attribute prudence where very little is likely due, but perhaps the hesitance of other anti-womens' rights group like MRL to climb aboard "Doctor" Reardon's bandwagon rickshaw stems from their recognition of just how nutty the "Doctor" is? Maybe they fear that Reardon is going to give the Lunatic Fringe a bad name?

And frankly, those fears may be fully justified when we consider some of "Doctor" Reardon's other "academic" literature. PBS had a segment earlier this year which laid out one of Reardon's otherworldy tropes:

One of Reardon's more spectacular assertions appears on his website. It
speculates that it was something called post abortion stress that
caused Lorena Bobbit, the woman who became a tabloid television
sensation - to cut off her husband's penis. "By understanding how her
abortion traumatized Lorena," Reardon writes, "we can understand why
she mutilated John the way she did."

Sound science!

Well, that's also likely, but when you consider the millions of abortions such high statistics coming out pointing to suicide et cetera, you do have to wonder.

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God is Love.

The question then becomes in all of life's circumstance, "what is the loving thing to do?"

Deaths from Homicide

The STAKES study also found that 14 (5 percent) of the 281 women were killed by another person. Most of these deaths occurred among women who had undergone an abortion. As shown in Figure 4, the risk of dying from homicide for post-abortive women was more than four times greater than the risk of homicide among the general population. This finding, especially when combined with the suicide and accident figures, once again reinforces the conclusion that women who abort are more likely to engage in risk-taking behavior.


Finally, the STAKES study does not shed any light on whether or not women who died from suicide or risk-taking behavior after an abortion were already self-destructive before their abortions.

it's too bad they didn't look at mental illness/health within this study.

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Originally posted by: yodavater: "I'm a little adverse to being "controlled" when I'm on my time."

Me too.

D Nile ain't just a river in Egypt. They will never believe any study that make make abortion less than the perfect option empowering women to be all they can be.

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Let the babies live and let the mothers love.
Hosea 4:6 My people will suffer for lack of knowledge

My ministry is Heaven's Gain www.heavensgain.com

Of course the proaborts won't acknowlege what monsters they are and how their violent natures are responsible for not only the deaths of children but also the horrendous outcome of the mothers of these dead babies.
I'm not at all shocked.

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A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves. - Edward R. Murrow

The first liberal was satan.

Gee, shouldn't we be discussing whether these chaotic women - the schizophrenic, drug-abusing, suicidal, etc... - should be having babies and hauling these children into their destructive lifestyle?

We've all seen how well THAT turns out..

There's no "discussing" with you monsters....just get over yourself once and for all.

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A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves. - Edward R. Murrow

The first liberal was satan.

Three things:

1. Forced sterilisation.

2. Take any children born to these women into custody.

3. Get the woman real assistance, mental health and addiction intervention. Get her life together, then return said child to said woman if the child hasn't already been legally adopted.

See how solutions can involve not killing someone?

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God is Love.

The question then becomes in all of life's circumstance, "what is the loving thing to do?"

Guess it just gives more weight to the slogan "Abortion: One dead. One wounded".

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God is Love.

The question then becomes in all of life's circumstance, "what is the loving thing to do?"

Yes, abortion kills a child.

However, to better fight the pro-abortion mindset, the same mindset that hearlds abortion as a great big honourable health boasting operation we need studies and research to prove they're full of BS.

The pro-aborts say abortion is safe. When we prove that its not, the general public may start to wonder "if they're lying about abortion's safety, what else are they lying about?"

We have to fight this war on different fronts to be truly effective.

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God is Love.

The question then becomes in all of life's circumstance, "what is the loving thing to do?"

bump

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debrahatley

PLUS it should be taken into account that without mandatory reporting of abortion-caused injuries and deaths and/or them being misleadingly reported under the general category of 'pregnancy/childbirth', abortion is falsely made to appear 'safer than childbirth'.

Abortion is safer. The study quoted here describes different causes of death that happen after the abortion occured, not deaths linked to the abortion procedure.

From here:
Abortion is an extremely safe and common medical procedure. In the United States, over one million women had an abortion in the year 2000. Advances in early abortion techniques have helped to increase the proportion of early procedures, the safest type

From here:
For most women an abortion is safer than carrying a pregnancy and having a baby. All medical and surgical procedures have risks, but the earlier in pregnancy you have an abortion, the safer it is. Your doctor or nurse should tell you about risks and complications that relate to the specific abortion procedure(s) being offered to you. If you have special concerns about certain kinds of risk, let your healthcare team know so that they can tell you more.
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Problems at the time of abortion are not very common

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Faith is a substitute for knowledge, as death is for a difficult life

Edited: 12/07/2009 at 03:50 PM by Sigma

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