Pro-Choice is irrelevant. Choice is indeed given in every situation. Before conception. After this - it's simply convenience as is evidence all over the board.

Ironically - that which is held in highest esteem is essentially taken away from those which cannot defend themselves.

And those who often march against war - government corruption - give free health care to all -deny the purest form of innocence - the totally defenseless - any choice at all!

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The Egg is NOT dead!
If it doesn't come from the mall or Wal-Mart...it MUST be spam!
What "message" might we ALL send through this simple analogy?

Choice = Abortion.

So obviously its relevant to people who are unfamiliar with correct semantics and the lexicon of the language they claim to be fluent in.

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God is Love.

The question then becomes in all of life's circumstance, "what is the loving thing to do?"

You are against universal health care, but bragged that you and your family get free health care? GTFO!

Ignorance is rampant when not having to be held accountable by what you say. I never "bragged" about being given the opportunity to find health care. I state, that when times were tough - we were able to get health care in a society that supposedly has none.

Get it straight...

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The Egg is NOT dead!
If it doesn't come from the mall or Wal-Mart...it MUST be spam!
What "message" might we ALL send through this simple analogy?

So let me get this straight. You don't( or didn't pay at the time) pay for insurance, you don't pay through you taxes into a universal system, and you didn't pay directly to the service provider when you received the service( health care)....So what exactly do you call someone who takes things that don't belong to him, that he is not entitled to( under both American law and his own assertion) and does not pay for? Up here in "tree and fish farm ( and universal healthcare ) land" AKA Canada, we call that theft. Which would make you a thief. Right?

Not exactly. As a tax paying system -with the current BEST system on Earth - you see -we have a system in place for people. like myself at the time - that allows for us to go and get GREAT health care. That's the little 'secret' nobody speaks of around here. We did it. Excellent care. Medicaid helped us. Now, we have health care....

The problem is - right now we have a HUGE portion of our society NOT paying into the system using it...ever heard of Mexico? I know of many instances where women come here from Mexico just to have a baby....

The system is broken and needs to be fixed. Not done away with for one like you have in Canada.....who was it that recently had heart surgery from your country that came HERE? Who was it?

Cheers!

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The Egg is NOT dead!
If it doesn't come from the mall or Wal-Mart...it MUST be spam!
What "message" might we ALL send through this simple analogy?

best system on Earth? according to who? not me that's for sure! my mother works in health care here in Canada and I can tell you we have far more AMERICANS coming here for health care than you have Canadians seeking treatment in the states.

It's true that some people, who have the money to do so, will go to a foreign country( India is far more common a destination for these medical tourist fyi) but that does not mean they are without care at home. They simply choose a different treatment option. Also little known fact, if there is a treatment that is not available in a Canadian hospital( wait is to long, specialist can't be found ect) the GOVERNMENT will pay to have that person treated at a private or foreign clinic. this is important not because Canadian health care is lacking( it's not perfect but it is IMHO far better than the American one) just that a particular treatment may not be available at home or that such a treatment might be so new that the only practitioners are not Canadian( again not always American) But the patient STILL receives the care without having to live the rest of their lives in debt. this is what universal health care is about. not the location of treatment but the COVERAGE.

I assume you are referring to the Newfie premier who jumped que and decided to go with an alternate treatment in the states? he was offered treatment here( infact his life threatening illness was detected by our 'inferior' system. He did not want the treatment he got here and went abroad. He is a bit of a kook by any standard( read up on him is politics are kinda entertaining) this is his CHOICE one you seem to think a public system denies him? (again fyi there are private clinics in Canada.....) I doubt he will make a claim against medicare for his expenses as he is a politician, doesn't need the money and it would likely be an unpopular move with voters but who knows..... But the option exists.

so tell me if you have 'the greatest system on the earth" why do so many Americans come to Canada? why do Canadian walk in clinics have to post signs saying that anyone without a care card( ie foreigners) will have to pay a service fee? why is India the worlds largest growing medical tourist destination? why are more American gastric bypass done every year in MEXICO?

And I still wonder why you seem to have no problem STEALING from a system and condemning those who do the same with the same breath?
Canada is far from perfect and our system is constantly evolving and changing to meet current needs. but our taxes are manageable, and every citizen has access to quality health care.

Williams said his decision to go to the U.S. did not reflect any lack of faith in his own province's health care system.

"I have the utmost confidence in our own health care system in Newfoundland and Labrador, but we are just over half a million people," he said.

"We do whatever we can to provide the best possible health care that we can in Newfoundland and Labrador. The Canadian health care system has a great reputation, but this is a very specialized piece of surgery that had to be done and I went to somebody who's doing this three or four times a day, five, six days a week."

Williams also said he paid for the treatment, but added he would seek any refunds he would be eligible for in Canada.

"If I'm entitled to any reimbursement from any Canadian health care system or any provincial health care system, then obviously I will apply for that as anybody else would," he said.

"But I wrote out the cheque myself and paid for it myself and to this point, I haven't even looked into the possibility of any reimbursement. I don't know what I'm entitled to, if anything, and if it's nothing, then so be it."

He is expected back at work in early March.

Aren't you with a Mexican woman?

I liked your poem about camping by the dirty river. You're an interesting hobo.

Also, I'm betting you and your troop of wetbacks are on welfare right now.

Jason says: "The system works, people! I got free health care!" "The system is broken, though, cuz other people are getting free health care."

This is rich. Jason is a taxpaying citizen, therefore his Mexican girlfriend gets not only free medical care, but a private room, and "everything under the sun.

Of course, he never said he wasn't obligated to pay, only that he "never paid a dime."

Oh, and if your employer doesn't offer health care, that apparently lets you off the hook for medical bills.

Frankly, I suspect Jason is one of those leeches who doesn't pull his weight, but takes advantage of the good will of fellow citizens, you know, the kind of guy who lives with some woman who gets welfare and only works under the table and never pays taxes, the kind of guy who is dragging the rest of us down and always expects more, giving nothing in return.

Actually - I'm about to be unemployed again....yeah - NASA....those 10 hour days and studying another 4 did lots for me....boo hoo. I just thank God if we are put into this situation - we are able to at least find something.

I do not need to justify anything..just going from personal experience.

My wife is a citizen...

How is it that so many people come here for Health Care - yet I'm led to believe Americans are going in droves for Health Care in Canada? Medicine - maybe - but Health Care?

Glad you checked out the little site....read a few words....thanks.

The inherent flaw with boards are the anonymity they allow....instead of discussion with accountability - you get arguments....and it leads to nothing...

Cheers...

Look how "liberal" they are with the term Mexican....wow....true colors to surface when anonymous!

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The Egg is NOT dead!
If it doesn't come from the mall or Wal-Mart...it MUST be spam!
What "message" might we ALL send through this simple analogy?

I don't believe you have a job. Enjoy your government cheese.

Interesting screenname. Were you straight and then had a conversion to fagness experience, so now you want everyone here to know about the "new" you?

Funny LexIcon and thanks....

A pro-abort who "doesn't believe me" and yet denies choice to that which has none. Coming to a Pro-Life site to "argue" with a pseudo-name like NewFag? C'mon.....

Moderaters have done a good job eliminating most spam - how are ip addresses like this any different?

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The Egg is NOT dead!
If it doesn't come from the mall or Wal-Mart...it MUST be spam!
What "message" might we ALL send through this simple analogy?

@Jason:

Since you have no reason to assume I'm not prolife, clearly you have no credibility here. Once more, I do not believe a word that oozes from between your lips, and you obviously have no qualms about saying whatever suits you, with no regard for whether or not it is true.

@Lexicon:

Lurk moar, Christfag.

Having no clue what "Lurk moar" means, since I don't play online reindeer games, I Googled it and found this



A search of "Lurk moar, Christfag" got nowhere, but "Christfag" brought up this worthless attempt at humor

As for "newfag," it's definition here is not at all flattering.

All of this is to say to you, "newfag," you being a New Member to THIS particular online community, that you don't need to be an obnoxious prig with your "special" language skills, that is, unless you just can't help it.

Edited: 02/27/2010 at 12:45 PM by LexIcon

Very good, but you still need to lurk moar. You have much to learn, young grasshopper.

No doubt, Master Po.

All your bases are belong to us (just so ya know).