 07/30/2010 09:05 AM
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leftsnemesis Senior Executive
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Since no-one can be certain that the heightened awareness of the general public to the problem of abortion as a result of the massive media coverage and ongoing internet buzz concerning Tiller's assassination wasn't at least partially responsible for the closing of this clinic. A Dead Death Mill
Perhaps this is the perfect poison.
OK.. calm down and brace yourselves.
Let me ask the forum a question. WARNING! (Think this through before answering)
Is there even one Pro-lifer up here who has turned his or her back on the Pro-life movement as a result of Roeder's actions? Hmm..?
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07/30/2010 11:08 AM
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faithman CEO
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Regardless how you feel about Roeder, the real fallout of his actions are undeniable. Abortion is still non-existant in Wichita after Tiller's termination, and the bortheads are putting story after story into the media how clinics are closing, and abortion on demand is in danger because of a lack of doctors. And the number one reason? There is a lack of Doctors. Med students do not want to take a career path that involves flack jackets and bullet proof glass. If you want to save an abortionist, encourage them to retire.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/...ST2009083103019?=AR
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Edited: 07/30/2010 at 11:54 AM by faithman
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07/30/2010 01:15 PM
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It's kind of like saying Hitler wasn't really all that bad. I mean, he did strengthen the German economy, built roads, schools, and hospitals....
No, regardless of any good that might have come from Tiller's assassination, it was still wrong. Let me ask you this:
Would you line up ten kids and shoot them all in the head if you knew for certain doing so would end abortion forever? No? But if shooting Tiller would do it, you would have no qualms? Hell, some of you would gladly have shot Tiller even knowing no good would be accomplished, provided you thought you could get away with it!
If we're honest, some of you must admit you simply feel some people deserve to die, and feel you are qualified to determine who they are...You wanted Tiller dead, and are happy that he is. Why not just be honest? Most of us understand it whether you admit it or not, I believe.
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07/30/2010 01:21 PM
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faithman CEO
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Originally posted by: CP
It's kind of like saying Hitler wasn't really all that bad. I mean, he did strengthen the German economy, built roads, schools, and hospitals....
No, regardless of any good that might have come from Tiller's assassination, it was still wrong. Let me ask you this:
Would you line up ten kids and shoot them all in the head if you knew for certain doing so would end abortion forever? No? But if shooting Tiller would do it, you would have no qualms? Hell, some of you would gladly have shot Tiller even knowing no good would be accomplished, provided you thought you could get away with it!
If we're honest, some of you must admit you simply feel some people deserve to die, and feel you are qualified to determine who they are...You wanted Tiller dead, and are happy that he is. Why not just be honest? Most of us understand it whether you admit it or not, I believe.
AAAAWWWW the humanist slime bag attemps to pervert the issue again. The question needs to be, were the 10 abortionist? Maybe in your monkey boy fruit stand, you often compare apples to oranges. But there is no confusion here. It has always been just to use enough force nessary to stop evil aggression. The question is, is abortion lethal evil aggression towards womb persons? If it is, then enough force must be applied to make it stop. No amount of stupid monkey dung will change that.
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07/30/2010 01:38 PM
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BossMomma Executive VP
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Originally posted by: leftsnemesis
Since no-one can be certain that the heightened awareness of the general public to the problem of abortion as a result of the massive media coverage and ongoing internet buzz concerning Tiller's assassination wasn't at least partially responsible for the closing of this clinic. A Dead Death Mill
Perhaps this is the perfect poison.
OK.. calm down and brace yourselves.
Let me ask the forum a question. WARNING! (Think this through before answering)
Is there even one Pro-lifer up here who has turned his or her back on the Pro-life movement as a result of Roeder's actions? Hmm..?
Nope, it just helped to further draw the line between the real and the fake. Real pro-lifers do not commit murder.
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Shout out to the redneck gals like me
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Edited: 07/30/2010 at 01:49 PM by BossMomma
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07/30/2010 01:41 PM
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faithman CEO
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Originally posted by: BossMomma
Originally posted by: leftsnemesis
Since no-one can be certain that the heightened awareness of the general public to the problem of abortion as a result of the massive media coverage and ongoing internet buzz concerning Tiller's assassination wasn't at least partially responsible for the closing of this clinic. A Dead Death Mill
Perhaps this is the perfect poison.
OK.. calm down and brace yourselves.
Let me ask the forum a question. WARNING! (Think this through before answering)
Is there even one Pro-lifer up here who has turned his or her back on the Pro-life movement as a result of Roeder's actions? Hmm..?
Nope, it just helped to further draw the line between the real and the fact.
Absolutely! Real prolifers see the womb child as a person, and deserving of defense from evil aggression.
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07/30/2010 01:45 PM
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BossMomma Executive VP
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Originally posted by: faithman
Regardless how you feel about Roeder, the real fallout of his actions are undeniable. Abortion is still non-existant in Wichita after Tiller's termination, and the bortheads are putting story after story into the media how clinics are closing, and abortion on demand is in danger because of a lack of doctors. And the number one reason? There is a lack of Doctors. Med students do not want to take a career path that involves flack jackets and bullet proof glass. If you want to save an abortionist, encourage them to retire.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/...ST2009083103019?=AR
So why don't you go do your share, pop a few baby killers here in Texas? I'm sure a hick like you has a gun, why haven't you gone forth as a brave soldier for the unborn and ended some of this "evil aggression"? Oh yeah, I forgot, because you a gutless blow hard who'd rather cheer on the sidelines while the brave lunatics for the womb child do hard time.
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If tears could build a stair, and hopes could build a lane, I'd walk right up to heaven and bring you home again.-Rest in peace my Aidan. 10-22-08
Shout out to the redneck gals like me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...zk&feature=related
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07/30/2010 01:49 PM
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CP Executive Member
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Is there even one Pro-lifer up here who has turned his or her back on the Pro-life movement as a result of Roeder's actions? Hmm..?
Let's assume there is not. What do you think that proves? Hmmm?
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07/30/2010 01:50 PM
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BossMomma Executive VP
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Originally posted by: faithman
Originally posted by: BossMomma
Originally posted by: leftsnemesis
Since no-one can be certain that the heightened awareness of the general public to the problem of abortion as a result of the massive media coverage and ongoing internet buzz concerning Tiller's assassination wasn't at least partially responsible for the closing of this clinic. A Dead Death Mill
Perhaps this is the perfect poison.
OK.. calm down and brace yourselves.
Let me ask the forum a question. WARNING! (Think this through before answering)
Is there even one Pro-lifer up here who has turned his or her back on the Pro-life movement as a result of Roeder's actions? Hmm..?
Nope, it just helped to further draw the line between the real and the fact.
Absolutely! Real prolifers see the womb child as a person, and deserving of defense from evil aggression.
The word Fact was a typo, that's why I shouldn't post while on my cellphone
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If tears could build a stair, and hopes could build a lane, I'd walk right up to heaven and bring you home again.-Rest in peace my Aidan. 10-22-08
Shout out to the redneck gals like me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...zk&feature=related
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07/30/2010 01:53 PM
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faithman CEO
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Originally posted by: BossMomma
Originally posted by: faithman
Regardless how you feel about Roeder, the real fallout of his actions are undeniable. Abortion is still non-existant in Wichita after Tiller's termination, and the bortheads are putting story after story into the media how clinics are closing, and abortion on demand is in danger because of a lack of doctors. And the number one reason? There is a lack of Doctors. Med students do not want to take a career path that involves flack jackets and bullet proof glass. If you want to save an abortionist, encourage them to retire.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/...ST2009083103019?=AR
So why don't you go do your share, pop a few baby killers here in Texas? I'm sure a hick like you has a gun, why haven't you gone forth as a brave soldier for the unborn and ended some of this "evil aggression"? Oh yeah, I forgot, because you a gutless blow hard who'd rather cheer on the sidelines while the brave lunatics for the womb child do hard time.
I am doing my part right here, by honoring Scott Roeder's effort, which in turn encourages abortionist to quit, which in turn close clinics because of a lack of "doctors", which in turn saves the lives of womb children. I do not have to have Scott's courage to honor it, and to be thankful for the dominoe effect it has had on the enemies camp.
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07/30/2010 01:54 PM
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The people on the fence are the ones we need to convince in order to have a consensus and the ability to change laws. People like XXX,XXX,XXX, close minds with their words and deeds, effectively COMPROMISING THE EFFORTS OF LEGITIMATE PROLIFERS and sabotaging the prolife cause for the sake of self righteous posturing!
Edited: 07/30/2010 at 02:42 PM by Prolife America Moderator
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07/30/2010 01:55 PM
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BossMomma Executive VP
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Originally posted by: faithman
Originally posted by: BossMomma
Originally posted by: faithman
Regardless how you feel about Roeder, the real fallout of his actions are undeniable. Abortion is still non-existant in Wichita after Tiller's termination, and the bortheads are putting story after story into the media how clinics are closing, and abortion on demand is in danger because of a lack of doctors. And the number one reason? There is a lack of Doctors. Med students do not want to take a career path that involves flack jackets and bullet proof glass. If you want to save an abortionist, encourage them to retire.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/...ST2009083103019?=AR
So why don't you go do your share, pop a few baby killers here in Texas? I'm sure a hick like you has a gun, why haven't you gone forth as a brave soldier for the unborn and ended some of this "evil aggression"? Oh yeah, I forgot, because you a gutless blow hard who'd rather cheer on the sidelines while the brave lunatics for the womb child do hard time.
I am doing my part right here, by honoring Scott Roeder's effort, which in turn encourages abortionist to quit, which in turn close clinics because of a lack of "doctors", which in turn saves the lives of womb children. I do not have to have Scott's courage to honor it, and to be thankful for the dominoe effect it has had on the enemies camp.
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If tears could build a stair, and hopes could build a lane, I'd walk right up to heaven and bring you home again.-Rest in peace my Aidan. 10-22-08
Shout out to the redneck gals like me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...zk&feature=related
Edited: 08/02/2010 at 01:08 PM by Prolife America Moderator
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07/30/2010 01:56 PM
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faithman CEO
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Originally posted by: CP
Is there even one Pro-lifer up here who has turned his or her back on the Pro-life movement as a result of Roeder's actions? Hmm..?
Let's assume there is not. What do you think that proves? Hmmm?
It prove that people are prolife because of conviction, not because of the direct action of a man of conscience like Roeder, or the blatherings of a monkey boy dufus who continually proves what a purposeful stupid idiot he is. This is about the personhood of the womb child. Folks are not distracted from that by the likes of scum like you.
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07/30/2010 01:57 PM
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For some, it's better to get money from the "real prolifers" and perpetuate the fight than to win over the voices we need in order to effect lasting change. In fact, if they alienate those on the fence, they keep abortion going strong, and donations rolling in...
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07/30/2010 02:02 PM
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BossMomma Executive VP
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Originally posted by: faithman
Originally posted by: CP
Is there even one Pro-lifer up here who has turned his or her back on the Pro-life movement as a result of Roeder's actions? Hmm..?
Let's assume there is not. What do you think that proves? Hmmm?
It prove that people are prolife because of conviction, not because of the direct action of a man of conscience like Roeder, or the blatherings of a monkey boy dufus who continually proves what a purposeful stupid idiot he is. This is about the personhood of the womb child. Folks are not distracted from that by the likes of scum like you.
No, it's not about personhood, it's about ending abortion and recognizing that the fetus is a human being. It's about removing the supposed need for abortion, making it obsolete with education, better contraceptives and, better support for the women who are expected to carry these babies to term. You cannot say to women No abortion while in the same breath tell them, No support. All you want to do is criminalize and that is not how abortion will be undone.
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If tears could build a stair, and hopes could build a lane, I'd walk right up to heaven and bring you home again.-Rest in peace my Aidan. 10-22-08
Shout out to the redneck gals like me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...zk&feature=related
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07/30/2010 02:07 PM
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faithman CEO
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Originally posted by: CP
For some, it's better to get money from the "real prolifers" and perpetuate the fight than to win over the voices we need in order to effect lasting change. In fact, if they alienate those on the fence, they keep abortion going strong, and donations rolling in...
Untrue again. But lies seem to be your purpose in life. Roeder has had a very effective, and lasting change on this issue. Abortion in Kansas is at a 20 year low, Wichita is still an abortion free zone, and bortheads all over the country are bemoaning the lack of doctors because of the Tiller termination. I intend to do all I can to protect other abortionist from the same fate by encouraging them to retire.
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07/30/2010 02:10 PM
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faithman CEO
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Originally posted by: BossMomma
Originally posted by: faithman
Originally posted by: CP
Is there even one Pro-lifer up here who has turned his or her back on the Pro-life movement as a result of Roeder's actions? Hmm..?
Let's assume there is not. What do you think that proves? Hmmm?
It prove that people are prolife because of conviction, not because of the direct action of a man of conscience like Roeder, or the blatherings of a monkey boy dufus who continually proves what a purposeful stupid idiot he is. This is about the personhood of the womb child. Folks are not distracted from that by the likes of scum like you.
No, it's not about personhood, it's about ending abortion and recognizing that the fetus is a human being. It's about removing the supposed need for abortion, making it obsolete with education, better contraceptives and, better support for the women who are expected to carry these babies to term. You cannot say to women No abortion while in the same breath tell them, No support. All you want to do is criminalize and that is not how abortion will be undone.
And the only way to legally end abortion is establishing the womb child as a legal person. I don't think we have to give all car jackers a car before we make laws against car jacking. Why should we uphold such an unjust standard for womb persons?
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07/30/2010 02:18 PM
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BossMomma Executive VP
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Originally posted by: faithman
Originally posted by: BossMomma
Originally posted by: faithman
Originally posted by: CP
Is there even one Pro-lifer up here who has turned his or her back on the Pro-life movement as a result of Roeder's actions? Hmm..?
Let's assume there is not. What do you think that proves? Hmmm?
It prove that people are prolife because of conviction, not because of the direct action of a man of conscience like Roeder, or the blatherings of a monkey boy dufus who continually proves what a purposeful stupid idiot he is. This is about the personhood of the womb child. Folks are not distracted from that by the likes of scum like you.
No, it's not about personhood, it's about ending abortion and recognizing that the fetus is a human being. It's about removing the supposed need for abortion, making it obsolete with education, better contraceptives and, better support for the women who are expected to carry these babies to term. You cannot say to women No abortion while in the same breath tell them, No support. All you want to do is criminalize and that is not how abortion will be undone.
And the only way to legally end abortion is establishing the womb child as a legal person. I don't think we have to give all car jackers a car before we make laws against car jacking. Why should we uphold such an unjust standard for womb persons?
A fetus is by websters dictionary already a "person" but according to the law the fetus is not a juridicial person which is a member of society with constitutional rights, a fetus cannot excersise rights, a fetus for the majority of it's stay in the womb is not sentient. The fetus exists in a way no other human being does, within another human being. To give both the title of Personhood would inevitably cancel out the rights of one of them (ie: the woman who is pregnant) ergo, because the woman is a part of society and the fetus is not, it does not make sense to give it the title of Juridicial Person. That is why the personhood ammendments never get signed into law.
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If tears could build a stair, and hopes could build a lane, I'd walk right up to heaven and bring you home again.-Rest in peace my Aidan. 10-22-08
Shout out to the redneck gals like me
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07/30/2010 02:21 PM
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faithman CEO
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What the bortheads, and the false pro-lifers do not understand, is that there is more to life than this physical world, and our physical bodies. Our bodies are merely the containers of the precious substance Called life. Life has to have that container to express itself in the natural world. Even if the container is flawed, it still makes it possible for the miracle of life to be expressed. Our common value is not found in the container, but what is contained. The life of a womb child is equal to the life contained in all of us. The only legitimate breaking of this container, is if it has the compunction to smash other containers without cause. When you take way the ability to express life, you loose the great privilege to express your own. Evil aggression must be subdued, or no container can have any security from unjust breakage. To take away the possibility of this wonderful spark of life to be expressed, makes this world a darker place, and the rest of us containers a little more impoverished, and alone. Though the womb child is a small container, it does not lessen the value of the life it contains. If fellow containers do not value the life of the womb child container, then they have placed their personhood container in great jeopardy. Anyone who does not see that womb children are fellow human containers, containing life of equal value to their own, is a self destructive fool, drunk on the power to kill, and must be stopped for the sake of the rest of us life containers. It is the life in us that makes us equal, not our degree of ability to express it.
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07/30/2010 02:24 PM
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BossMomma Executive VP
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Originally posted by: faithman
What the bortheads, and the false pro-lifers do not understand, is that there is more to life than this physical world, and our physical bodies. Our bodies are merely the containers of the precious substance Called life. Life has to have that container to express itself in the natural world. Even if the container is flawed, it still makes it possible for the miracle of life to be expressed. Our common value is not found in the container, but what is contained. The life of a womb child is equal to the life contained in all of us. The only legitimate breaking of this container, is if it has the compunction to smash other containers without cause. When you take way the ability to express life, you loose the great privilege to express your own. Evil aggression must be subdued, or no container can have any security from unjust breakage. To take away the possibility of this wonderful spark of life to be expressed, makes this world a darker place, and the rest of us containers a little more impoverished, and alone. Though the womb child is a small container, it does not lessen the value of the life it contains. If fellow containers do not value the life of the womb child container, then they have placed their personhood container in great jeopardy. Anyone who does not see that womb children are fellow human containers, containing life of equal value to their own, is a self destructive fool, drunk on the power to kill, and must be stopped for the sake of the rest of us life containers. It is the life in us that makes us equal, not our degree of ability to express it.
What's the matter fakeman? Can't find anything to refute my logic so you backpeddle and throw up this ancient garbage?
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If tears could build a stair, and hopes could build a lane, I'd walk right up to heaven and bring you home again.-Rest in peace my Aidan. 10-22-08
Shout out to the redneck gals like me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...zk&feature=related
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